Saturday, June 29, 2019

How Much Does it Cost to Build a Barndominium?

I have been going back and forth on whether to write this post as it can vary so much and can sometimes be a touchy subject. But enough people have asked to prompt me to go through with it. As such I am only posting this on a couple of Facebook Barndominium sites and not the RV sites I usually post on.

As I said each of these costs can vary from person to person based on location and personal tastes but this is brief overview of our experiences. Keep in mind that since we are doing all the labor ourselves these figures do not include any labor whatsoever. So here is our experience over the past year or so here in South Dakota. ….

Pre-Build 
Water – In our area we had the choice of trying to dig a well, hooking up to rural water or installing a cistern. Wells in this area can be hit and miss. A few miles away wells are no problem and wells hit water rather quickly but in our particular area we were warned that if we tried to dig a well we could end up with a very deep, very dry, very expensive hole for a fence post so this option was off the table very quickly.

Our second option was to hook up to rural water which runs right past our place at the road. While considering this option our first consideration was cost. It costs $2,500 for the connection and then a per foot charge to dig a trench and lay the waterline to the house. Since we are about ¼ mile off the road we knew this was going to be costly. On top of that there is a $90/month charge whether you used an ounce of water or not. Then there is a charge for every gallon over your first 80 gallons each month. Given the fact that only planned to be here ½ the year we would be paying $90 a month for nothing.

Our last option was to install a cistern. This was the most popular method prior to the rural water being installed. Homeowners would install cisterns of 1,000 gallons or more, buy a 250 gallon or so water tank that fit in the back of a truck or trailer and drive to town to one of the several water fill stations and will their tanks at a cost of .01/gallon. The upside of this option is that is it much cheaper and you only pay for what you use. The obvious downside is the hassle of having to get your own water.

Living in our RV the past 6 years we were very used to using as little water as we could so the fact that we had limited water did not scare us and the cost appealed to us so we went with this option. The 2,000 gallon cistern installed was $2,500 and found a local water guy who will fill it for .08/gallon. So far it looks like 2,000 gallons will last us the year while we live in our RV during the build. Even if we double or triple that when the house is built we are money ahead.
Cistern installed October of 2017
Septic
There are not sewer systems in this area so the only option in this area were mound systems or a conventional drain field. Since our area perc’ed for a conventional system, we went with that option at a cost of $4,500.
Sewage Tank (Oct '17)

Line from tank to drainfield

Drainfield

Site Prep
This was a challenging area for us as we were at the complete mercy of the excavator. We knew we needed quite a bit of work to make that area we wanted to build stable enough and flat enough so we got a couple bids.
Kevin and I clearing the site (Summer of '17)
One bid was over $10,000 and the other bid was $2,500. You can guess which bid we went with. The job ended up being a lot tougher than expected due to all the rock. They had to bring a chisel for the excavator and chip away at the rock. They got the build site where it needed to be but were not able to get the approach to the garage we level as we would like it without blasting so we put that on the back burner for a while. In the end it ended up being a little over $2,500 but less than $3,000




Electrical
We had two options here. Having power lines run to the build site or install solar. Since we have solar on our rig we were quite familiar with the in’s, out’s and costs of solar. We knew either were going to be expensive. Being so far off the road certainly was not going to help the cost of running power lines. When we contacted the power company to get a cost he suggested that we contact the owner of an abandoned cattle corral a few hundred yards from our build site and see if we could jump off his power poles to get power to our site. The owner lived in Germany but he did give us permission saving us thousands of dollars. The initial cost was $9,300 but we received $3,500 of that back when we started building.
Power Pole in!
We are doing the interior wiring in two weeks. So far I have $2,000 in materials. Barb and I pulled the main service wire from the meter to the house the other day. This was not easy but not overly difficult. We had to push 4/0, 4/0, 2/0 wire through 150’ of 3” conduit!
Got the house side done!

Finished the meter side this afternoon
Having never done this before I was a little nervous flipping the main breaker back on so I asked Barb to flip the meter breaker while I hid around the corner and watched. No sparks, no flames, it actually worked!

Our son Forrest who is an electrician is coming out to do the labor so add in a case of beer (or two) and that will be done!

Concrete work
I forget what I paid for plumbing pipes but I don’t think it was more than a few hundred dollars and thanks to my neighbor Doug who is a licensed plumber and inspected my work I know everything will flow downhill!
This is the first area that we started saving money and using our own labor. First let me say if it weren’t for our friend Kevin we would have never been able to do any of the labor savings items throughout the rest of this post. We did all of our own concrete work. Installing the forms, as well as pouring the 30’x88’ pad. The cost of the concrete was a little over $9,000.
Foam and in-floor heat in and ready for concrete!

A day later we had concrete!
Framing
Again thanks to Kevin, he taught us how to build and frame walls and inspected our work after each phase. We used a local lumber yard for our building materials, the total cost of lumber to frame in the building at about $14,000. This is probably a couple thousand dollars more than we would have spent going to a discount lumber yard but the local yard delivered, took back everything we did not use and we did not have to run back and forth to Rapid City over an hour away. Money well spent.  


We got a couple bids for trusses, about $10,000 for the house and porch trusses. Both the trusses and floor system came with detail drawings making them easier (easier being a relative term) to install.

Windows/Doors
There are so many options when it comes to windows/sliders. We had bids as low as $10,000 and a high of $30,000. Since Kevin had built over 100 homes he knows windows and guided us towards Marvin Integrity and since windows really make the house we went with windows that would help highlight the views. The total for the windows was just short of $20,000 with the 12’slider and traps being about 1/3 of that cost. We did not go crazy with exterior doors, we spent about $1000 on the three exterior doors. With luck we will have all the exterior doors in by the end of next week.
Front door ready to go in..
We also ordered two 12'x14' overhead doors that are supposed to arrive next week. The cost of the two doors, openers and installation came to a little over $3,700 each. The neighbor down the road has the exact same doors and Barb was nice enough to pose with them.....

Roofing and Siding
Again so many options here. Our goal going into this project was “maintenance free” so we decided to go with an all steel roof and steel/stone for the siding and aluminum soffits. Although we have not started this phase of the project yet, if the costs stay close to the bid amounts it should come in right around $17,000. We are using Bridger Steel out of Rapid City, they had competitive pricing and a lot of good ideas. Click the link above to see some of the many pictures of previous installs.

Whew, just writing about all this work makes me tired. It is hard to say how much we have saved in labor but it is safe to say it was significant. Some in the know say you could pretty much double your material costs and that is what we saved. We are very grateful to have Kevin helping us along the way and the dozen or so friends who have stopped by with their helping hands over the past few months.

Our hope is to have the steel on the roof before the first snow flies and with luck the siding done before spring. As far as the rest of the project, we don’t want to push it, we don’t plan on getting off the road anytime soon so if it takes us 4-5 years to completely finish the inside, that is fine with us!

I hope this gives an insight for those of you who were wondering.  We have not taken the time to add all these up, I probably don't want to know but there is a lot of satisfaction in the fact that we are doing it ourselves and saving a lot of money in labor. Kevin arrives sometime today for a week long visit. We will be hitting his house pretty hard as it has not have any substantial work on it since late March, it is going to be a busy week!

We would love to hear your thoughts, experiences or comments. Feel free to leave a comment below.

32 comments:

  1. You are so lucky to have so many knowledgeable friends to help. It will be amazing when you are done and will cost much less than a contracted home. I ran a construction company for many years ..... you did really good!!!

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    1. Thanks, we are truly lucky to have such great friends, we would not have been able to do this without them.

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  2. That was very nice of you to share all the info! I'm sure you are saving a ton of money being able to do most of the work yourself! When it's finished you'll have even more reason to be proud. It's going to be awesome (well, it already is!) We love watching the progress!!

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    1. Or.... I could sit in the living room knowing where each of the little mistakes are! Not really, so far we have not made any mistakes that we are going to lose sleep over.

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  3. That makes for a very empty wallet but a beautiful house will be the result.
    Thankfully by providing much of the labour yourselves it has kept lots of the costs down.
    Be Safe and Enjoy the finished product with the satisfaction that you built it.

    It's about time.

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    1. We were stressed about taking all this money out of our account and putting it into the property and the house but we rationalized it by thinking we were basically taking it from one account and just putting it into a totally different account. At least that helps us sleep at night!

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  4. You two are amazing...to tackle such a huge project with no previous experience! You guys could start your own construction company if you need a fall back plan. 😉 Great recap of your build...stay safe!

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    1. I don't think we would ever want to do this for a living. It is one thing doing it for ourselves but to be motivated to do it for someone else is an entirely different story. We have a lot of respect for the craftsman that do this for a living!

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  5. You guys are doing fabulous with your choices I think. If you need more water the guy can just come and drop off more. If you need more power just add to your solar bank so I believe it is a win win situation for you both. I am sure it will be nice to finally be at "lock up". Looking forward to more pictures. :)

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    1. One of out fears is running out of water when it is really cold and snowy out. Will the truck be able to get up our driveway to deliver water?

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  6. So nice that you can do most of this work yourselves, not only saving money but the satisfaction of building your own home.

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    1. At the end of many days we sit in lawn chairs in our living room and just relax and look around at what we have accomplished so far. Very rewarding!

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  7. Question: How much is the trophy wall going to cost on the inside...you know, the wall containing all the huge fish that Barb has caught along with the huge antler racks and other big-game...and of course, the wall of shame for the small fish and little-game that you have landed. lol

    You both have worked so hard on this, and it is amazing...I know it will bring many years of pleasure to you all.

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    1. You have a very perceptive eye! We did design a couple of walls for just that purpose. Per square foot those areas are going to be a lot more expensive! Except of course for the small section I will need for my trophies!

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  8. So your just at the beginning stages right? I have not missed anything correct? I ask cause i want to do this and looking into land now

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    1. We have been blogging off and on about our build for the last year or so. You can go to the other posts on the right sidebars to see some additional information.

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  9. That was a fantastic recap Jim. I'm not a builder but we have a few projects behind us too and you are taking on the stuff that we hired out. A concrete pour like yours with in-floor heat is huge and you did a fabulous job. Yes your friend Kevin is a god send for you but you and Barb (and some helpers) are doing this yourselves!! When you look back on this in 20 or so years you'll still have that feeling of pride that you built this with your own hands. Fantastic work by both/ all of you and we hope to see J-B one day. We'll be sure to pack some Naramata Nut Brown Beer with us :)

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    1. 20+ years from now I will probably be wondering who the strange woman sitting next to me is! I mean she is already strange but today I at least know who she is..... And yes, you better bring beer with you!

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  10. What a special home you are creating. You are leaving your current dream of full timing but at the same time building your future. You are living the good life and the road ahead looks wonderful. Congratulations on what you have accomplished to date.

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    1. Thanks we are looking forward to our future travels while having this as a home base to come and go from!

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  11. I think it's great that you're sharing this information. Lots of people want to take on big projects like this and it's always difficult to find honest information about costs. I think being open and transparent provides a real service to your readers. I can't wait to see this place when it's all done!

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    1. Thanks! I know we appreciate it when we find information like this when researching projects like this.

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  12. You guys are definitely saving a ton by doing the labor. I'm not sure how this happened, but I'm in the middle of a kitchen remodel at my sister-in-laws place. Guess I'm workamping this summer for a free site and pontoon boat at my disposal. The Lund is for the guys. Two fish fries down and lots more to go.

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    1. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me! Fresh walleye whenever you want it along with views and boat rides that cannot be beat!

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  13. No doubt being able to do so much of the work yourselves was a huge savings. Labor costs are so high. John mentions the savings every time he makes a MH repair or a repair to the Jeep.

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    1. Very true, I asked our son what he would charge to install the main service like Barb and I did and he said that alone save us anywhere from $400-$600.

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  14. Thanks Jim, for the very informative post. Some day we may want to do something similar, but I don't think we will be up to the amount of labor you two are doing. The Barndominium is exactly what we have been thinking about for years.

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    1. Feel free to reach out when and if you ever decide to build one!

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  15. Thanks for the info, we casually talk about one day building one so nice to see some actual $$'s. Having built a two thousand square foot addition ourselves we know the savings realized by doing it yourself. I know we could do some ourselves but not to the extent you two are.

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  16. Wow this is very informative for those who want to tackle a similar project as yours. I tried to add up in my head the cost you have already incurred with more on the way. In terms of labor you may have save in terms of $$ but the barndominium is a labor of love. Your sweat, stress and hardwork can not be quantified, so to me it evens out. The upside is the satisfaction you get after everything is done.

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    1. Right now it feels like that satisfaction will never come, but when it does we will enjoy it!

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